Thoughts on Science

What is science to two self-realised gurus or human beings staring at each other in the face or state of truth, being that truth as thy moment? #darshan

Everything in that state or phase makes sense, is or appears differently. The light of the Self shines through, and the images and forms of Shiva or the dance of self/form/experience/perception is seen differently, for the layers that they are within and on the Self that shines brightly and now recognises itself, and in that recognition brings itself ever so more forward as such.

In other words, what is science to someone or an inner scientist that already knows the big questions (what is life, consciousness, existence) through himself, his medium or experience as thy Self? Is it not different, or very different from someone that is still exploring this as if he does not know - taking science as the ultimate means of doing so?

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Part 1

How many people in science are truly awake or self-realised/enlightened?

“Without leaving my room, I know the world” comes from Chapter 47 of the Tao Te Ching by Laozi: “Without leaving my house, I know the whole universe.”

There are many levels of self-realisation. I am not talking about Saguna Brahman - realisation through the presence of awareness as the qualities of the divine in or as oneself, Sat-Chit-Ananda (Being, Consciousness, Bliss), for example - although this realisation already radically alters, transforms an individual and their perception/contribution.

Again, self-realisation is inherent in (the development of) an individual, and although always available as a direct recognition of what one truly is, some have a laid-out path of self—an incarnational plane or template—where the expression/realisation of which/this goes unmet. What a wonderful way of being All-That-Is experiencing itself, forgetting its almightiness until death again, and then its more readily or full, untainted remembering. Experiencing itself in that way—not knowing it actually is itself fully (what, where one is - what is life)—is in fact an expression of its potential/infinity as well.

But to return to the point: Nirguna Brahman, a higher order of self-realisation, the complete disappearance or eradication of man or one's existence, and the complete renewal upon its return with the knowing that that or its absence as well as return, and everything that return encompasses and is - is oneself or All-That-Is. That is a radically different realisation, or deeper altogether. 

And yet still, coming now from my personal view: people in science live their all-important lives, thinking they are so very important. A sage knows everything, and can undress them with his very naked eye. The medium and way of their expressing, the present evolution of their thought or thinking style, where it is heading, and what it is missing, or dismissing. A game. A play.

“A buddha on the street goes by un-seen/un-recognized.” 

A man seeking a position that does not adhere to the competition and profiling structures that are largely academic goes unmet or unseen. People so focused on representations miss what lies behind them. In fact, the what lies behind them never gets an opportunity to be seen, recognised and given the opportunity for what it could be and give. A potential to radically change and transform the world still unmet, or is used only in small quantities, rather than for what it truly could do. Because of our structures, and "musts", we loose the thing behind, which is everything, and that from which everything becomes, is. A source greater than the self we have known ourselves as all of our lives, and yet always available.

The inseparable source of one's true nature. Shines so bright that when untainted blinds the world, for which can no longer be seen. Ha-ha. At least for what it once was. Again, it is all itself, the screen, and when it sees itself for that - darshan - it shines as that to and with, (as) itself.

You/we are the source, tap in, realise, and transform, or rather, have the world reflect correspondingly for what it could and can be.

Part 2

If we all knew who and what we are, to the depths of our existence, that which our very existence is made of, beyond concepts, the very nature of our presence and being, we would have a different society.

In a world of fully self-realized humans, the need to prove loses its footing.

Science, the very thing we created, or was created from/reflects our existence as an organised system of thought, loses superiority. Knowing becomes primal as always was, in the building of it before, but now more consciously engaged and fully realised, untainted. 

We no longer need to prove what life is and how it works when we know who and what we are. We begin to explore what is and how it may be possible — how we can use ourselves and bring out from ourselves/existence different things, necessary things for our development, evolution, and planet. Not as separate agents, but as inseparable reflections, further catalysts of change, listeners, serving the path/moment, the needs of the self as a whole system, and the passion of what we are.

Science, as an organisation of thought, can be seen as a life having its own evolution and development, the development of which is far behind self-realisation and the knowing that emerges from, and is part of, that paradigm. Yes, everything makes sense differently from that point of view (as does anything from a new realisation or vantage point; things connect, correspond to, or align with themselves from a fresh state—for example, things previously unseen are now recognised in a new light, for what they are correspondingly), and already present discoveries in science come to the forefront in new or different emphasis, such as, for example, the double-slit experiment (subject-object inseperability).

Imagine having an experience that so radically transforms how what is known is known, not by changing the thing in itself, but by revealing to itself, its nature/direct recognition, what it is more clearly or fully. An experience that, once seen, radically revolutionises a human being from the inside out - a new Sself, what is believed and fought for.

But what does it matter, when everything has its place and purpose as the whole. Both a lack of self-realisation and full self-realisation are and co-exist as creation, as valid points of view in and of itself, yielding unique and possible experiences of self, its evolution from within and towards more of itself. What I mean by this last part is that they, as two different aspects, just reflect two different vantage points or contrasting viewpoints of and within the self. Just different expressions of itself. Each or none no more or less than any other. In other words, not more or less itself than any other - for they are always made from it, within it. Just different differentiations, compositions or configurations of itself through which or to which it can tell its own story to itself in itself as itself. From dark to light, from a to b, and everything in-between and around.

Hence everything has its place, none is denied. And everything can be used or is used for the sake of experiencing itself, its own creation;

For a nice continuation of this idea please see "a universe based on intentionality" (upcoming).

Part 3

What is science? It is essentially an "if this then that" system. Or if these, and only if these set of conditions are met, then, or only then can we say that this is verifiable, or true, valid/reliable?

How much knowledge, information or experience, discovery, goes amiss from such a standpoint/context. In other words, how much discovery not present or available in such contextual confines goes unseen, recognised or merely acknowledge for what it is, as true as it may be, in its own "unverifiable" light?

The process of elimination or liberation in meditation seems to be quite the opposite. What is it that knows, or what is it that is present, (and knows this experience), and how is it present in ways I thought it might or could not be by subjugating it to a format, idea or sensation cluster that appears in it/the present moment. Something I have identified with, or myself awareness as. Liberating the subjugation. Untainting the screen/direct unsubjugated revelation/recognition of itself.

What does science actually prove or give to someone that already knows? Be it an arbitrary or out of the ordinary experience they have had as true as hell!, is it now to be dismissed or devalued because science says otherwise? or because its own evolution of thought and instrumentation cannot or has not yet caught up with that idea or recognition discovery in its of assumed or taken contexts?

How much of science and what we thought to be true through it, and taken as true, has changed throughout the years, evolution and/or history? It is a developing system of thought, confined or referenced to its context of assumed or validated discovery. So I am supposed to take true what you/it says now as the supreme and dismiss the rest, when tomorrow or in 10 years we already have a different reality/truth, taken as true in societal terms?

As I said, in direct recognition of self, it or science is merely seen as a system of thought. An arrangement, a contextualised hypothesis or random generating box, inseparable from the self or individual perceiving or exploring through it, his or her intentions and the contextual coming together of agents, data variables in that moment. Of course we can generalise statistically through all that we do and know, and come to a more certain conclusion, for example as not only appearing one time #generalised. But what I wanted to say is: that it is so tailored to the who it is shining through, and the when in which it happens, that 10 years from now, or more, the same thing can be seen and shown a different way. Even if we replicate it through different people, cultures, etc., it will yield different results. Sometimes it is almost like a shot in the dark, the social sciences specifically I mean, the hard sciences seem to me to have more of a solid or stable structure, knowing how to control for various confines in more controlled spaces, investigating the micro etc., quantum...

Part 4

It comes back to this post; and how everything is already inherent/internal, part of everything. A tree and its fruits of a seed, just needing the right context or imperative to grow, or through which to grow and become. A truly enlightened, warm hearted, honest and caring individual, emphatic, knows how to be and care for others. He or she has or can learn it through themselves. They arise it in or through their becoming. But this also brings me back to understanding who or what created science and has discovered everything there is to come to know through it, until now or today, - it is we, humans. So why on Earth take away a power by giving it all of yourselves, when in fact it is you yourself who have created it. May not your knowledge or experience be a source for more than that that it just was. For more then science alone, the many different and infinite paradigms still inherent to and with you. Your experience, intuition and gathering forward of the new.

Also; what do two truly self-realised people/individuals gazing at each other from or as that truth, knowing and being the truth, awareness, screen, consciousness in or as thy moment truly need science for? How does it meet them there or in that state or truth of being? I would say as an instrument, and instrument for the better, to create new things, develop new instruments, technology, everything that is or might be possible to serve a purpose that is aligned with that level of realisation, supports it and aids all dynamics, and necessities that are part of it, restructuring society, helping the ill, and planetary conditions where needed etc.

A bit like the quantum technology Bashar has hinted at, where via the holographic principle, everything being in everything, anything can be brought out of anything, anywhere. If you have the right set of tools and technology to bring it out of itself in that way. A couch from an atom, as his shifting UFO space ship can take the shape of anything that is necessary telepathically via him or his thoughts as they occur now or instantly, since the ship is an expression of his higher mind in form, it is a instantaneous reciprocal communication/mutation device/expression. It is a form of quantum holographic technology.

Oh, and not to go too much into that; but how much of science, new information or knowledge, desire for creation is subjugated to its "business" or money operating or directing dynamics? How much is allowed and truly supported, paced, and how much is suppressed, and slowed down, or geared somewhere else for the sake of profit or the holding of financial gain until, when, and still possible? It comes back to this post here; where I say, each state or paradigm is its own already available and existing reflection/state in existence. Evolution as the state of any given state and its inherent "pre-determined" opening further, like a tree from a seed, cannot help but, sooner or later, manifest what it truly is, and in that reflect or have reflected the adjustment that is present or inherent to its state. It might take time, but humanity and its evolution has all of these things already inherent to or within itself, and when the time comes ever so more, or its imperative in thy moment/state, there it is, nothing can suppress it no more, it grows around, or in that stage or level/time, already has less existing people or institutions that suppresses it as a reflection of its pre-full opening imperative or blossoming.

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